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Omniscient God and our Free Will

November 27, 2007

This doesn’t have anything to do with Republican Strategy, but I thought I’d share my thoughts with you anyway. Anyway, I’m back after months of my MIA weblogs! I’m sorry that you have been deprived of my genius intellect, but I have been busy with my “un-educational” career of college that destroys the faith that so exists in young minds. Fortunately, my faith is still intact and strong; perhaps stronger now that I have studied Christianity and Islam simultaneously. Interestingly enough, the liberal “educated elite” has failed in the one job that they try so hard at acheiving…David = 1, Hippie-liberal-douche professors = 0.

Now that that’s said, here’s the new topic: If God is omniscient does mankind still have free will? This is a question that has only come up a few times in my life and I have thought about it. Unfortunately, my answer is purely theological and won’t appeal or make “logical” sense to you atheists or agnostics (who Stephen Colbert says are just atheists with no balls). Having said that, my answer is a valid philosophical premis and I think a good one at that. Here it goes:

God is infinite. Mankind is finite (less than). If God is infinite, then God is omniscient, along with other infinite attributes. This means that God knows everything that we are going to do and every decision we are going to make. Then the question comes: if God knows everything, do we still have free will? The answer: yes. Impossible right? For our finite minds, yes. But God makes it possible and we will never figure out how, because God is infinite and we are finite. If we could figure out how this is possible then that means that we could understand the infinite, in which case God would not be infinite, would he? If this were the case, there would be no God. But if there was no God, then you wouldn’t have to worry about this question right? But we are not infinite and God is, so we will never be able to understand some of the things that God makes possible.

What are your thoughts?

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5 comments

  1. Funny you mention this a bought a philosophy book last weekend in it was this very subject its not with me right now but when it is I will share its findings with you.


  2. I’m a five point Calvinist….. No Free Will exist…… Find those words in the Bible. It’s a farce cooked up by Post Modern philosophy that entered the Church.


  3. So are you saying that we can’t choose whether or not we are poor or rich, or whether we sin or not, or kill someone, or even whether we go to Hell or Heaven?

    That sort of thinking is historic Triumphalism (the notion that if we please the gods they will in turn reward us.) That contradicts our image of a loving God.

    I don’t think it’s fair to say that Free Will does NOT exist. We don’t know. I will, however, accept the notion that there are other theories to how we make our choices here on earth. For example, if you want to argue the theory that we operate by some phenomenal design, I’ll play that game. But the problem with design is that if someone dies “God knew it was going to happen” and people, therefore blame God. Christians tend to avoid this theory simply because we don’t want to “Blame” God. I don’t know whether it IS the way we operate or not, it’s just my personal opinion that we operate by a sort of Free Will that we can’t understand.)

    BTW, don’t be afraid of philosophy…like it or not there are many Christian ideas that are parallel to Plato’s theories…it doesn’t mean that they’re wrong.


  4. This doesn’t directly address your question David, but it’s related and I thought you might like it.

    Did God create everything that exists? Does evil exist? Did God create evil?

    A University professor at a well known institution of higher learning challenged his students with this question. “Did God create everything that exists?”

    A student bravely replied, “Yes he did!”

    “God created everything?” The professor asked.

    “Yes sir, he certainly did,” the student replied.

    The professor answered, “If God created everything; then God created evil. And, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then we can assume God is evil.”

    The student became quiet and did not respond to the professor’s hypothetical definition.. The professor, quite pleased with himself, boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.

    Another student raised his hand and said, “May I ask you a question,

    Professor?” “Of course”, replied the professor.

    The student stood up and asked, “Professor does cold exist?”

    “What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?”

    The other students snickered at the young man’s question.

    The young man replied, “In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Everybody or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-460 F) is the total absence of heat; and all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no heat.” The student continued, “Professor, does darkness exist?”

    The professor responded, “Of course it does.”

    The student replied, “Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact, we can use Newton’s prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn’t this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present.” Finally the young man asked the professor, “Sir, does evil exist?”

    Now uncertain, the professor responded, “Of course, as I have already said. We see it everyday. It is in the daily examples of man’s inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.

    To this the student replied, “Evil does not exist, sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God’s love present in his heart. It’s like the cold that comes when there is no heat, or the darkness that comes when there is no light.”

    The professor sat down.

    The young man’s name — Albert Einstein….A true story


  5. Thank you for that. Very well put.

    Not to say that I don’t believe that story, but do you have a reference or source for that story? I’d like to use it in future arguments…Thanks.

    David



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